Another Feckless ACNA Bishop Chimes In on Fr. Robinson and the Mere Anglicanism Conference
This time from +Todd Hunter, Ordinary of the oddly-named Diocese of Churches for the Sake of Others (C4SO), arguably ACNA's most untethered - some would say unhinged - "diocese", as it a veritable cauldron of wokism, shoddy theology, and charismania:
Dear Clergy,
I write today to celebrate and encourage our female clergy. C4SO is blessed and privileged to have as colleagues dozens of godly, Spirit-anointed, fruitful women in Holy Orders. They serve as Deacons, Priests, Rectors, Deans and in key roles on our Ministry Team. They are among my most trusted advisors. You can find C4SO’s permanent and livable views and values regarding women in leadership here.
None of this will surprise you, but it needs to be reinforced today because of derogatory comments toward women clergy made by a speaker at last week’s Mere Anglicanism, one of the most notable conferences within the ACNA. I did not attend the conference, and I did not hear the talk, but several C4SO leaders have brought the matter to my attention.
Today I saw a letter from Bishop Chip Edgar of the Anglican Diocese of South Carolina to his clergy. I cite it here as an example of best practices within the challenge of "dual integrity."
Our women pay a high price for being in ACNA. On the matter of Holy Orders, they are talked about but rarely listened to. For men in ACNA, dual integrities is a concept. For women, it can be a dehumanizing tool for rejection.
I will not publicly comment on the Mere Anglicanism lecture because 1) I do not want to reward bad behavior; 2) I don't want to respond to the anxious reactivity of our denominational system; 3) no new historical, exegetical, lexical or hermeneutical claims were made. Had the speaker made claims to new ground, our Canon Theologians and I would write something in response in good faith.
Please join me today in giving thanks to God for our female clergy. Call, text or email one of them to express your love, respect and solidarity.
I am better, and C4SO is better, because we work as one—lay and clergy, female and male.
Grace and peace,
Bishop Todd Hunter
It's hard to know where to begin in untangling this bird's nest of error and confusion. I guess I'll start with the observation many orthodox Anglican clergy and laity, including Fr. Robinson, are making today in private fora about Hunter's letter, which is that the bishop has actually proved Robinson's point about Critical Theory. Observe the underlying theme of the oppression and liberation of women in the church. Observe how, instead of referrning to "male and female", the traditional hierarchical order of reference rooted in both biblical ontology and cultural tradition, he reverses it with "female and male." Typical feminist fare. Ergo: Bishop Hunter is to be thanked for making the exact point Fr. Robinson made at the Mere Anglicanism Conference.
Secondly, Hunter asserts that Fr. Robinson made "derogatory comments toward women (sic) clergy." That is an assertion that borders on false witness. Robinson's comments were neither derogatory nor aimed at female clergy per se. They were principally aimed at the Anglican Church in North America, its idiotic notion of dual integrities (idiotic because oxymoronic) and the connection of feminism, and hence women's ordination, to Critical Theory. Fr. Robinson's criticism was aimed just as much at the Church of England and The Episcopal Church as it was at the ACNA. Hunter's red herring here will be evident to anyone familiar with informal logical fallacies.
Thirdly, Hunter calls Robinson out for his "bad behavior". If trying to press for honest and open discussion at a public discussion forum about how Critical Theory has deleteriously affected Anglicanism is "bad behavior", then please God, let's have more of such behavior. But the ACNA isn't really interested in honest and open discussion, and this is especially the case in woke C4SO.
Lastly, Hunter makes the odd claim that "no new historical, exegetical, lexical or hermeneutical claims were made. Had the speaker made claims to new ground, our Canon Theologians and I would write something in response in good faith." I find this amusing since ACNA itself essentially concluded in its formal study on women's ordination that at the end of the day there are no valid historical, exegetical, lexical or hermeneutical claims to be made in defense of the practice of women's ordination, old or new. One Anglican educator responds:
"Had the speaker made claims to new ground..."
The entire orientation is pig-headed. Most of theology is settled. We shouldn't be looking for, much less requiring, new claims.
The charge is they are biblically in rebellion against God. It's not a debate, but a factual matter the ordination of women is sin and those who practice it should be subjected to church discipline, including excommunication if necessary. Theologically they are out of step with church history. Requiring new ground shows a compromised theological method right from the start.
There's no new ground because the biblical position is settled, and treating it like it is not is itself a sinful rebellion.
The fact that ACNA nevertheless persists in its "dual integrities" hallucination for constitutional and canonical reasons is a dire symptom of its inner sickness.
This missive from +Hunter does not surprise anyone who has followed his personal history, first in The Vineyard and then "Three Streams" Anglicanism, and especially the extremely troubling way he was so quickly elevated to the rank of bishop as a relatively recent convert to Anglicanism. We expect better formation and quality of thought from an Anglican bishop, however. Alas.
Per Bishop Chip Edgar III. . .
"I, as your bishop, believe that the ordination of women comports with the teaching of scripture, most importantly, and is not ruled out by the tradition of the church."
Said no Church Father, Doctor of the Church, or any Anglican until the late 20th century ever.
From Gavin Ashenden
"What Calvin (Robinson) did was to stand up and effectively say that the churches that have a sub-sacramental view of priesthood were in fact confused and involved in a category error in ordaining women to a role in which they represented the masculinity of Jesus, because, like it or not, that's the traditional understanding of priesthood. In the *Apostolic* Church (there is a view which has come down through the generations?), which both Orthodoxy and Catholicism adhere to and protect, and which sacramental Anglicanism borrows from. Sacramental Anglicanism has to decide whether it's Catholic or whether it's Protestant."
An Anglican Priest Overheard on the Mere Anglicanism/Fr. Robinson Debacle
"Nobody wants to hear this, but… I take the fiasco with the Mere Anglicanism conference, to be nothing less than a public admission that the advocates of priestesses in the ACNA lack the intellectual wherewithal to debate their opponents. It was a complete total and utter moral and intellectual failure on the part of the lunatic, progressive phalanx in that jurisdiction to be able to debate a rational functioning adult, who disagreed them in public."
Some Post-Mortem on the Mere Anglicanism's Conference Treatment of Fr. Robinson
Following up on this. I will provide updates as more of such rolls in.
BREAKING: Mere Anglicanism Conference "Cancels" Calvin Robinson, Fr. Mark Marshall
Can Two Walk Together, Except They Be Agreed?, Fr. Jay Thomas at The North American Anglican
Canceling Calvin for Being Calvin: Fr. Calvin Robinson Exposes the Folly of “Dual Integrities”, Fr. Matt Kennedy
Fr. Calvin Robinson and Feminism, Solomon's Corner video commentary
An Anglican Tempest in Charleston, Bethel McGrew
Smoking Gun? Fr. Robinson responds to the Rev'd Jeff Miller's spin doctoring.
Press Release concerning The Reverend Father Calvin Robinson, The Nordic Catholic Church
Cancelling Calvin Robinson: The American Anglican Crisis as Feminism Takes Truth & Integrity Hostage, Gavin Ashenden. (Don't miss this one. There are some real jewels here.)
Fr Calvin Robinson Interview: What Happened at the Mere Anglicanism Conference?, Fr. James Gadowski interviews Fr. Robinson
Mere Anglicanism, Mere Censorship! Calvin Robinson Speaks Out!, Fr. Brett Murphy interviews Fr. Robinson
The Great Anglican Disappointment: Calvin Robinson, Bishop Chip, and Women in the Church, Anne Kennedy
Rent Asunder? Calvin Robinson at Mere Anglicanism, Stand Firm Podcast
Will Orthodox Anglicans Please Stand Up?, Jonah Saller at Eastword
Statement of Forward in Faith North America
What's The Big Deal About Women's Ordination?, Fr. Mark Marshall
An Open Letter to the College of Bishops, Rev. Andrew Brashier at The North American Anglican
The Day the Gloves Came Off: An End to Detente in the ACNA, Fr. Lee Nelson at The North American Anglican
The Parting of Ways: Calvin Robinson's Case
"A voice emerging from the mist,
Luring words she could not resist,
'Listen to me,' the serpent hissed
To Eve, the proto-feminist." - Quoted or penned by one David Rudd
Fr. Calvin Robinson "Cancelled" at the Mere Anglicanism Conference
1/22/24 Update: The "blowup" I mentioned below refers to the explosion that occurred in the comments section of the Mere Anglicanism Facebook page. Mere Anglicanism has now apparently deleted comments and turned off commenting. I managed to get screen shots of most of them before that happened.
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The good news is that it blew up in ACNA's face. The bad news is that ACNA will never, ever address the problem. It has chosen to live with its oxymoronic and suidical "dual integrities" policy. Trads need to get out of there. Just do it, already.
Cancelled From Mere Anglicanism
John Jewell, Crypto-Puritan?
"Jenkins’ basic thesis is that in Jewel’s mainly controversial and polemical works we have the public figure of the faithful and loyal bishop, but in his private correspondence, mainly with his Swiss reformer friends, we see a frustrated academic with distinct puritan leanings, bemoaning the lack of reforming progress in his native England. Jenkins terms Jewel as ‘an iconoclast in a prelate’s vestments’ and puts this observable dissonance down to the underlying tension in many of the English reformers—a pronounced Erastian worldview giving the godly prince, in this instance Elizabeth, sovereignty in both civil and ecclesiastical realms, yet solidly maintaining the traditional Protestant sola scriptura as the final arbiter in doctrinal authority. This would inevitably lead to the bloodshed of the Civil War in the next century, as the English church had no recourse after the monarch’s undisputed sovereignty."
Read the rest here.
"The only question now is how will the ACNA deal with ACNAtoo."
"Sadly, we have our suspicions."
Yes, Virginia, We Are Sacrificing Priests
From a fellow priest:
"One of the most polarizing positions one can take in theological discourse is with regards to the sacrifice of the Mass. Or, put differently, whether one believes that the Eucharist is a sacrifice or merely a memorial of one. This question ultimately centers around the question of what worship is. For more catholic minded folk, worship necessarily entails that there be a sacrifice offered. For the more Evangelically minded spirit, any notion of our worship involving a sacrifice is either superstitious or a sign of the times (depending on your flavor of Evangelicalism); and, If you’re Reformed, it’s both of those.
In this article. I would like to consider whether or not the offering of a sacrifice is essential to worship, and more particularly whether or not the Eucharist is considered a sacrifice. In the midst of this, we will also look briefly upon the Incarnation and see what it informs us about our main topic."
Martin Luther: "Justification is the Article by which the Church Stands and Falls"
N.T. Wright on Martin Luther Not Being All That Right
"The point here being that whenever anyone says 'Luther was wrong,' it doesn’t matter what he says next. As soon as you grant Luther’s error, you raise serious questions as to the legitimacy of the Protestant Reformation."
And that, my friends, is the nub of it. Sanders, Dunn, Wright, et al. have arguably taken the legs out from under the entire Protestant Experiment.
What's left? How about the Catholic Church, East and West, that *stood*, without solafidianism, for 1,000 years before the Great Schism and 1,500 years before Reformation, and which still stands 500 years after it? When one carefully and honestly observes the sweep of Protestant history and where it has brought Protestants today, he must ask himself which church truly no longer stands.
See here for McGrath's account of how later Caroline divines began chafing at Luther's error, a version of which unfortunately made its way into certain Anglican formularies.
David Bentley Hart - Do Women Make Better Priests?
Note that his argument rests entirely on the tired, old anecdotal "argument", spouted by many of DBH's fellow liberal-leftists, that many women upon whose head some errant bishop laid his hand are just more naturally suited for the priesthood. Forget about the theology of the matter. Forget about Apostolic and Catholic precedent. Forget about the Church:
Hart concludes his denunciation of my review with some revealing statements. He has “never been especially concerned about terms like ‘orthodoxy’ and ‘heterodoxy.’” He “was never a champion of the kind of Christianity” I believe in, creedal orthodoxy. From the first, he has been “a metaphysical monist of the Neoplatonic and Vedantic variety.” In other words, Hart has never been a man of the Church, devoted to its orthodoxy, dedicated to the emerging wisdom of the Christian community and its Great Tradition. He is an independent religious thinker who urges his readers to adopt his own private method of theological interpretation. Toward the end of Tradition and Apocalypse, he tells believers they can liberate themselves by “a peculiarly modern maxim: sapere aude—dare to be wise.” In the end, he implies, the truth about God is something that individuals must figure out for themselves. Hart is a lonely theologian, and he would leave us alone, apart from the Christian community who have thought together about redemption by the God of Israel.
I wonder what Fr. Robert Hart has to say about his brother's argument, since he is a priest of the Anglican Catholic Church, which rejects the practice of ordaining women. After all, per Robert, his brother is the most intelligent and learned theologian Christianity has ever produced, and all his critics are therefore fools. It'll be interesting to see whether it's crickets or whether it's this standard line of "reasoning" he regularly employs.
ACNAtoofar
To add insult to injury, they also claim the following in the statement: “Though we hold an assortment of personal views on gender and sexuality, we are united in our position of love and care for all survivors of abuse, with a particular tenderness for those facing social marginalization on top of abuse trauma.” But their clear statements of belief on the nature of sexual identity belies the truth that they do not, in fact, hold an assortment of personal views on gender and sexuality. They are espousing one view that is in stark contrast to the scriptures and the Church that ACNAtoo is seeking to denounce. In light of their demand for unconditional surrender of biblical and moral truth, there is not any room for respectful disagreement even as we share concern for survivors.
Given the animus of ACNAtoo towards biblical teaching on human identity, sexuality, and marriage, their disdain for “theological purity” and the Fundamental Declarations upon which this Church stands, ACNAtoo has forfeited whatever voice it once had among the “various publics” to which the presenting bishops in Ruch vs. Beach once referred. They are now demanding nothing less than an unconditional surrender of the very way we have sought to faithfully read and obey God’s word in the spirit and love of Jesus Christ. They have defined the issues to always reflect abuse even if the offending parties are simply holding the biblical line.
Or is it merely ACNA's LATCON mentality coming home to roost?
Time to fix it, boys.
By All Means, Robert. . . .
Go get that Nth booster. "Poor brainwashed knucklehead." ;>)
Is There an Intelligible Anti-Vax Position?
FDA adds a warning to Covid-19 vaccines about risk of heart inflammation (CNN)
Risk of death following COVID-19 vaccination or positive SARS-CoV-2 test in young people in England (NIH/NLM)
Carl Sagan’s Final Warning on the Importance of Scientific Skepticism From the article:
". . . as Dr. Vinay Prasad pointed out, no party has a monopoly on science; but it’s clear that many of the policies the 'pro science' party were advocating the last three years were not rooted in science.
'The ‘pro science’ party was pro school closure, masking a 26 month old child with a cloth mask, and mandating an mrna booster in a healthy college man who had COVID already,' tweeted Prasad, a physician at the University of California, San Francisco.
Today we can admit such policies were flawed, non-sensical or both, as were so many of the mitigations that were taken and mandated during the Covid-19 pandemic. But many forget that during the pandemic it was verboten to even question such policies.
People were banned, suspended, and censored by social media platforms at the behest of federal agencies. 'The Science' had become a set of dogmas that could not be questioned. No less an authority than Dr. Fauci said that criticizing his policies was akin to 'criticizing science, because I represent science.'”
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Asbury Is Having A Revival (Again)
I missed this article by R. Scott Clark (Reformed) last February.
Despite the confidence with which those in the R&R (revival and revivalism) tradition speak about revivals, the truth is that there is typically little to show for them. Those of us in the confessional Reformation traditions would look at church attendance as an expected fruit of revivals but there is no evidence of increased church attendance after the First Great Awakening. In fact, attendance dropped. The genius of the so-called Great Awakenings is that, for the most part, they divorced religion and piety from the church, a pattern which American evangelicals have continued. Graham, Carl Henry, and Harold Ockenga, who pioneered the post-WWII “neo-evangelical” movement, intentionally marginalized the visible church as they sought unity among evangelicals around a high doctrine of Scripture. Sister Aimee held huge rallies before WWII and Billy Graham held a “revival” in LA in 1949, but to what effect? Yes, the Lord used those things to bring people to Christ but for all the “magic and noise” (H. L. Mencken), things in LA, London, and elsewhere soon returned to normal.
The Rise and Fall of the Evangelical Elite
May their fall be hard and permanent.
It was the elite evangelical response to COVID that finally destroyed their credibility. It solidified the already widespread suspicion that their role in society is to provide a theological veneer to regime narratives. They exhibited naïve trust in and absurd deference to institutions and the “experts” who openly lied and laughed off charges of tyranny as they closed playgrounds and schools, dumped sand in skate parks, locked people in their homes, and insisted that loved ones die alone. One notable pastor-theologian, Jonathan Leeman, authored several articles against churches that defied COVID restrictions, including against MacArthur’s church. In the height of the pandemic and while his church was forbidden from meeting, Leeman (being very on-brand) attended a crowded BLM protest, even inviting his church to join him.
Many of us refused to comply. Turns out we were right.
What Is Salvation?
"Salvation is not an event—even an event as important as accepting forgiveness for your sins. Salvation is instead an ongoing process during this life and beyond it that begins with receiving God’s forgiveness, continues with transformation more and more into the model of human existence that Jesus offered, and concludes after death when our bodies are transformed into ones that are free of the effects of suffering and death and we can bask fully in the joy of God’s presence. The right response to the question of “when did you get saved” is neither “When I accepted Jesus into my heart” or “When I was baptized”; the right answer is “I was saved by Jesus on the cross; I am being saved by God helping me to becoming more like Jesus every day; and I will be saved when my I am transformed after death and can enter into the joy of God’s presence that goes on forever.”
Ramsey on the Caroline Divines and the Study of the Fathers
"Whereas the **Edwardian and Elizabethan divines had been interested in the Fathers chiefly as a means of proving what had or had not been the primitive doctrine and practice**, the Caroline divines went farther in using the thought and piety of the Fathers within the structure of their of their own theological exposition. Their use of the Fathers had these two noteworthy characteristics. (1) **Not having, as did the Continental Reformers, a preoccupation with the doctrines of justification or predestination** they followed the Fathers of the Nicene Age in treating the Incarnation as the central doctrine of the faith. Indeed a feeling of the centrality of the Incarnation became a recurring feature of Anglican divinity, albeit the Incarnation was seen as S. Athanasius saw it in its deeply redemptive aspect. (2) Finding amongst the Fathers the contrast of Greek and Latin divinity, the Anglican divines could be saved from western narrowness, and were conscious that just as the ancient undivided Church embraced both East and West so too the contemporary Catholic Church was incomplete without the little known Orthodox Church of the East as well as the Church in the West, Latin, Anglican and Reformed. The study of the Fathers created the desire to reach out to Eastern Christendom. Thus did Anglican theology find in the study of the Fathers first a gateway to the knowledge of what was scriptural and primitive, subsequently a living tradition which guided the interpretation of Scripture, and finally a clue to the Catholic Church of the past and the future: in the words of Lancelot Andrewes 'the whole Church Catholic, Eastern, Western, our own." - Archbishop of Canterbury Michael Ramsey, "The Ancient Fathers and Modern Anglican Theology", Sobornost, Series 4: no. 6 (Winter-Spring 1962), p. 290. (Emphases in asterisks mine.)
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"No one doubts that Cranmer, Jewel, or Hooker were deeply committed to the witness of the ancient Church and the Fathers. The real question is whether or not their reading of Christian antiquity and the Church Fathers was superior to that of the Caroline divines, non-jurors and Tractarians (the theological lineage from which Anglo-Catholicism derives)."